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__annotate__ does not get called if __annotations__ exist #122285
When o.__annotations__ is evaluated, and the internal storage for o.__annotations__ is unset, and o.__annotate__ is set to a callable, the getter for o.__annotations__ calls o.__annotate__(1), then caches the result in its internal storage and returns the result.
To explicitly clarify one question that has come up multiple times: this o.__annotations__ cache is the only caching mechanism defined in this PEP. There are no other caching mechanisms defined in this PEP. The __annotate__ functions generated by the Python compiler explicitly don’t cache any of the values they compute.
I'm going to say this is working the way it should be working. If a class has annotations, the compiler generates an __annotate__ function and puts it in the class dictionary. Therefore, in your first example, the __annotate__ function that you provided gets overridden.
In your second example, there are no annotations, so the compiler does not generate an __annotate__ function. But when you call the __annotations__ descriptor, it finds an __annotate__ function and it calls it.
So my recommendation is not to change anything here. We could add some tests covering these cases, though. And if anyone thinks this needs bigger discussion, I can add a section discussing these cases to PEP-749.
I think that this case should be discussed. As it removes the potential use-case for things that are defined using annotations DSL, like dataclasses, attrs, pydantic models, validation, etc.
And this also seem like a big potential use-case, when people use TYPE_CHECKING imports for heavy objects, while they still want a way to properly resolve them at runtime when needed.
Libraries like pydantic or attrs have code that can run after the class is defined (either __init_subclass__ or a decorator). I don't really see why they would want users to define their own __annotate__ function.
For your heavy_import example, users can already handle this particular case with if TYPE_CHECKING a lot more simply (they don't have to repeat all annotations).
For your heavy_import example, users can already handle this particular case with if TYPE_CHECKING a lot more simply (they don't have to repeat all annotations).
Yes, this is what I was thinking of :)
I proposed the same here:
And this also seem like a big potential use-case, when people use TYPE_CHECKING imports for heavy objects, while they still want a way to properly resolve them at runtime when needed.
But, note that TYPE_CHECKING does not allow to have a real object set in annotation, only a string. Sometimes we might need both:
Having a real object, when .__annotations__ is accessed
Not running some potentially missing or slow imports before that
Libraries like pydantic or attrs have code that can run after the class is defined (either init_subclass or a decorator). I don't really see why they would want users to define their own annotate function.
Because this will affect code paths that don't specifically ask for annotations. Basically, this is the same as importing heavy_import right away.
For real use-case:
We have string-based manipulations of ClassVar and Any in dataclasses.py
We don't want to import typing in dataclasses.py
I wanted to add def __annotate__ to dataclass instances, so we can replace 'Any' to typing.Any when .__annotations__ dict is accessed. But, I failed to do that, because we already have .__annotations__ defined due to the dataclass existing API.
So, I opened this issue.
My proposal: let's ask maintainers of these two libs at least, feedback is always great to have for such big features. If they don't have any problems, it would be great! :) If they do, we can address them early.
But, note that TYPE_CHECKING does not allow to have a real object set in annotation, only a string
Not true, it can be a ForwardRef. annotationlib already provides a lot of flexibility for deferring heavy imports.
But, I failed to do that, because we already have .annotations defined due to the dataclass existing API.
This should already be possible by making the dataclass decorator set a different __annotate__ function. I'm not sure how allowing the __annotate__ function to be defined on the class would help.
I'm not sure I fully understand what you want to do either. What I was thinking was that dataclasses could do something like:
original_annotate = annotationlib.get_annotate_function(cls)
def wrapper_annotate(format):
annos = annotationlib.call_annotate_function(original_annotate, format)
return {k: typing.Any if v == "Any" else v for k, v in annos.items()}
But I don't really see the point; people shouldn't be using string annotations in the first place.
Now I am more inclined to agree with the current implementation 👍 , but I think we can leave this open until we ask pydantic and attrs teams, just to be safe (working on this) :)
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picnixz commentedon Jul 27, 2024
(Not sure if it's really a bug or not, so feel free to remove the label; but I think it should only affect 3.14)
JelleZijlstra commentedon Sep 17, 2024
I'm going to say this is working the way it should be working. If a class has annotations, the compiler generates an
__annotate__function and puts it in the class dictionary. Therefore, in your first example, the__annotate__function that you provided gets overridden.In your second example, there are no annotations, so the compiler does not generate an
__annotate__function. But when you call the__annotations__descriptor, it finds an__annotate__function and it calls it.So my recommendation is not to change anything here. We could add some tests covering these cases, though. And if anyone thinks this needs bigger discussion, I can add a section discussing these cases to PEP-749.
sobolevn commentedon Sep 17, 2024
I think that this case should be discussed. As it removes the potential use-case for things that are defined using annotations DSL, like dataclasses, attrs, pydantic models, validation, etc.
Let's say:
^^^
This won't work as well.
And this also seem like a big potential use-case, when people use
TYPE_CHECKINGimports for heavy objects, while they still want a way to properly resolve them at runtime when needed.sobolevn commentedon Sep 17, 2024
We might also need to invite people from pydantic and attrs to ask them, I am sure they have a lot of potential use-cases.
JelleZijlstra commentedon Sep 17, 2024
Libraries like pydantic or attrs have code that can run after the class is defined (either
__init_subclass__or a decorator). I don't really see why they would want users to define their own__annotate__function.For your
heavy_importexample, users can already handle this particular case withif TYPE_CHECKINGa lot more simply (they don't have to repeat all annotations).sobolevn commentedon Sep 17, 2024
Yes, this is what I was thinking of :)
I proposed the same here:
But, note that
TYPE_CHECKINGdoes not allow to have a real object set in annotation, only a string. Sometimes we might need both:.__annotations__is accessedBecause this will affect code paths that don't specifically ask for annotations. Basically, this is the same as importing
heavy_importright away.For real use-case:
ClassVarandAnyindataclasses.pytypingindataclasses.pydef __annotate__to dataclass instances, so we can replace'Any'totyping.Anywhen.__annotations__dict is accessed. But, I failed to do that, because we already have.__annotations__defined due to thedataclassexisting API.So, I opened this issue.
My proposal: let's ask maintainers of these two libs at least, feedback is always great to have for such big features. If they don't have any problems, it would be great! :) If they do, we can address them early.
JelleZijlstra commentedon Sep 17, 2024
Not true, it can be a ForwardRef.
annotationlibalready provides a lot of flexibility for deferring heavy imports.This should already be possible by making the dataclass decorator set a different
__annotate__function. I'm not sure how allowing the__annotate__function to be defined on the class would help.Feel free to do so!
sobolevn commentedon Sep 17, 2024
I'm clearly missing something.
Can you please provide a code sample for that?
JelleZijlstra commentedon Sep 17, 2024
I'm not sure I fully understand what you want to do either. What I was thinking was that dataclasses could do something like:
But I don't really see the point; people shouldn't be using string annotations in the first place.
JelleZijlstra commentedon Sep 23, 2024
@sobolevn seems like you got #122262 to work without changes here; do you still think the behavior of the core needs to change?
sobolevn commentedon Sep 24, 2024
Now I am more inclined to agree with the current implementation 👍 , but I think we can leave this open until we ask pydantic and attrs teams, just to be safe (working on this) :)
JelleZijlstra commentedon Apr 8, 2025
Closing as this is working as designed.