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Nextcloud support for MyOwnNotes 2? #140
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It would be good if we could use the nextcloud app instead of the owncloud app for authentication with MyOwnNotes 2.
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It would be good if we could use the nextcloud app instead of the owncloud app for authentication with MyOwnNotes 2.
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ramschmaerchen commentedon Mar 27, 2017
We decided to support ownCloud, see https://github.com/aykit/MyOwnNotes#what-do-you-think-about-nextcloud
What efforts would be needed to port to nextCloud?
gardar commentedon Mar 27, 2017
I see, there are a lot of different opinions on the nextcloud/owncloud case, and only time will tell which one will be the winner.
I feel that the nextcloud development is a bit faster today than the owncloud, so that's why I switched over myself.
I'm not quite sure what efforts would be needed, the nextcloud and owncloud servers/clients are quite similar at this point and almost everything I've tried on owncloud works on nextcloud and vice versa.
I have a nextcloud 10.0.1 server and it works fine with the owncloud android app and MyOwnNotes 2 through the owncloud android app.
It would be good if I could use the nextcloud app instead of the owncloud app. I'm assuming their API integration is the same or at least really similar.
jancborchardt commentedon Mar 28, 2017
@ramschmaerchen just for reference on the GSoC acceptance: of course they were accepted – because in all the recent years @jospoortvliet, me and others worked hard on that – and now switched to Nextcloud. Nextcloud though is in the eyes of Google a »new« project, even though most developers switched. It sucks but we will work to get accepted again. :)
We for example:
So we’d love to continue working together – Nextcloud is a fork driven by the community and the people who truly believe in open source. :) It’s mostly just a name change.
I’m sure the awesome folks of our Android community @AndyScherzinger @tobiasKaminsky @mario @David-Development would love to help if you have questions. :)
ramschmaerchen commentedon Mar 28, 2017
@jancborchardt MyOwnNotes is a hobby project. If supporting nextCloud requires much effort we won't do it.
However, if the integration of nextCloud and ownCloud android clients is the same I guess it may be doable. If the dev of the nextCloud client could shed light on this, it would be much appreciated.
Just fyi: MyOwnNotes 2 does not depend on the server side notes application anymore.
jancborchardt commentedon Mar 28, 2017
@ramschmaerchen sure, that’s why we’re here to help you. :) I see no reason why MyOwnNotes shouldn’t work with Nextcloud. You can actually just directly try with the demo server at https://demo.nextcloud.com
Cool! :) Even simpler.
ramschmaerchen commentedon Mar 28, 2017
Ok, if I understand correctly, we can interact with the nextCloud client the same way as we do with the ownCloud client? Do you plan to make nextCloud available on F-Droid again, see this isse.
Thanks for the hint with the test instances.
9662 commentedon Mar 28, 2017
As a user without involvement in either project, ownCloud is dead. For us, the last drop was back in November 2016.
Please consider switching to Nextcloud, cheers. 👍
pecuna commentedon Mar 28, 2017
Nextcloud seems to be preferred over Owncloud as it is more actively developed and is completely opensource and free.
I am forced to use the old version of MyOwnNotes until Nextcloud app is supported.
I am sure the count of people like me will grow.
Albirew commentedon Mar 29, 2017
Actually, version 1.6 was working fine with my Nextcloud server. Version 2.0 broke compatibility by requesting owncloud app instead of previously used credentials.
mario commentedon Mar 29, 2017
@ramschmaerchen we already have a nightly version on F-droid without GCM, though we can't guarantee for the bugs that removing GCM brought.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=com.nextcloud&fdid=com.nextcloud.android.beta
I didn't check the code, but why wouldn't it work with the NC app as well? :)
Anyway, happy to help in whatever way I can.
(Just for my information: if you don't depend on the notes app, do you manually create the text files on the server?)
ramschmaerchen commentedon Mar 29, 2017
Here my honest opinions to all of you:
OwnCloud was never known for stable releases. Bugfixing has always been a problem in the owncloud world. Seeing all those that were unable to maintain ownCloud in an enterprise way depart to nextCloud does not want me to use nextCloud.
Calling a gsoc attender dead is just not honest.
Fully free != Shipping with GCM per default.
We will look into supporting nextCloud anyways.
jancborchardt commentedon Mar 29, 2017
@ramschmaerchen from what I can see, I’ve been the person from the ownCloud community who communicated most with you, used the app, reported issues etc. I’m with Nextcloud now. That should already be an indicator which community is really active …
That’s some of the biggest reasons we forked and focused on more stability and security.
Simply compare this: https://github.com/owncloud/core/graphs/contributors with this: https://github.com/nextcloud/server/graphs/contributors – 8 of the top 10 contributors moved to Nextcloud.
ramschmaerchen commentedon Mar 29, 2017
You are right and I really appreciate your effort.
Regarding both cloud applications I don't care about either of them. I want files being backupped and accessible online. I don't care which application is doing that. OwnCloud did this so so, but Seafile is not good either so I decided to stay. If nextCloud achieves a stable ownCloud, I'd be happy to use it.
Regarding myownnotes support it depends on the effort needed. We will look into it.
thomascrisan commentedon Mar 29, 2017
@pecuna I am in the same predicament of not being able to use MyOwnNotes version 2.0. I switched to Nextcloud last year and have found the experience less frustrating than when I was using ownCloud (better communications via the web, faster bug fixes, more reliable).
I switched to this android application and for now it is working for me.
https://github.com/stefan-niedermann/nextcloud-notes
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=it.niedermann.owncloud.notes
ramschmaerchen commentedon Mar 29, 2017
Great, good to know.
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jospoortvliet commentedon May 28, 2017
Any progress? I had some ppl ask me about it ;-)
WRT your comments about stability - feel free to just look a bit on twitter and read about how people had fun with ownCloud 10.0.0 and compare it with Nextcloud 12.0.0 - that should be all you need to be convinced which project has a focus on stability. Software will never be completely stable, of course and certainly there are and will be bugs in Nextcloud but we'll work hard to make it more stable, promise.
jancborchardt commentedon Jun 1, 2017
Ah wow, the @kdslkdsaldsal fake account at it again. Only caring about 3rdparty apps in the last minute.
I'll unsubscribe here. We offered our help and implemented things instead of just talking, as seen above. :) How you continue with it with your app is up to you of course.
jancborchardt commentedon Jun 2, 2017
Let me make two things very clear:
I always cared about this app and other 3rdparty apps, when I was at OwnCloud (even when there was no company) and also now that I'm at Nextcloud. That's very apparent from my past issue reports and participation here.
At least I don't veil the fact where I'm employed. Acting as if you are an independent party here is dishonest and misleading.
jhf2442 commentedon Oct 8, 2017
Back to topic... any news on the PR being merged and released ?
Downloaded the client today from F-Droid and still got a version that's depending on the OC accounts being configured
tobiasKaminsky commentedon Oct 9, 2017
@jhf2442 there is a PR by pending, which can solve this #149
jhf2442 commentedon Oct 9, 2017
Hi Tobias, that's what I was talking about... any ETA for it ? (though you are the submitter and not the approver)
tobiasKaminsky commentedon Oct 9, 2017
Sorry, I misread it.
No ETA from my side, but I am here and willing to change anything that comes on their QA side to get this merged as soon as possible.
makayabou commentedon Jun 27, 2018
Hello,
I don't really understand what is the problem with the feature of supporting login with nextcloud app, but I just want to say that I'd really love to see that happen!!
Thanks folks for all the great work you do that I couldn't..
maltefiala commentedon Jun 27, 2018
Hi, that feature has already been merged. We currently face an issue with the dependencies. Current version is broken.
maltefiala commentedon Jun 27, 2018
Releases and tags have been removed. Will be re-released as soon as master is working again. Sorry for the trouble.
twixi commentedon Sep 23, 2018
please!! need support nextcloud!
BuxarNET commentedon Mar 20, 2023
need support nextcloud!